Home >
Worker's
Compensation Division >
WC Advisory Council >
Health Care Provider Advisory Committee
Health Care Provider Advisory Committee
Minutes for September 8, 2006
Crowne Plaza
Madison WI.
Present: David Bryce MD, Mary Jo Capodice DO, Eric Carlsen MD, Amanda
Gilliland, Frances Huntley-Cooper, Barbara Janusiak RN, Maja Jurisic MD, Steven
Kirkhorn MD, Jennifer Pollak, Peter Schubbe DC, Sri Vasudevan MD
Excused: Gina Buono MD, Mike Lischak MD, Jeff Lyne DC, Timothy Waldoch
Staff present: Jim O'Malley, Mike Topp
Observers: Margie LaBarge, RN-Ministry Health Care; Ron Kuehn-WI
Biotech & Medical Device Assoc; Russ Leonard, Wisconsin Chiropractic Association
10:12 AM meeting called to order by Chair Frances Huntley Cooper
Quorum is not met with 10 in attendance.
Members of the committee went around the room and introduced themselves.
Sri Vasudevan moved to approve the meeting minutes for August 4, 2006
Seconded by Peter Schubbe
Motion carried
Mike Topp reported out that MetaStar/Promed does not publicize their list of
reviewers.
Mike Topp presented an overview of the reasonableness of fee dispute resolution
request process. (Handout was provided)
Sri Vasudevan distributed handouts of interest:
Preventing Needless Work Disability by Helping People Stay Employed
Guidelines for the Assessment and Management of Chronic Pain
Mary Jo Capodice continues to work on rule alignment with current International Classification of Diseases (ICD) coding
Rule 81.00 discussion
- Steve Kirkhorn moved to accept the majority rule on any vote to make a rule
change today, September 8, 2006, contingent on absentee members voting, “Yes”,
“No”, or “Object” to the change in the committee rule regarding 12 members
needed for a vote on rule changes.
Second by Barb Janusiak
Unanimous consent
Motion needed in order to vote on rule changes in light of the absence of a
quorum
- Sri Vasudevan moved to change the definition of Chronic Pain in 81.03(3) by
deleting “means any of the following set of verbal or nonverbal behaviors that:”
and sections (a)-(d) and replacing it with, “Complaint of persistent pain beyond
12 weeks of appropriate treatment per DWD 81.03 to 81.12. It is persistent with
verbal and nonverbal pain behaviors that exceed the identifiable
pathology/medical condition.”
Second by Maja Jurisic
Unanimous consent
- Sri Vasudevan moved to change 81.13 from “Chronic Management” to “Chronic
Pain Management”
Second by Eric Carlsen
Unanimous consent
- Sri Vasudevan moved to change 81.10(1)(a) with
Know the categories of clinical signs and symptoms that are important for
diagnosis, know the interpretation of these diagnostic criteria for clinical use
and the sensitivity and specificity (sensitivity 0.85, specificity 0.60).
1. Positive sensory abnormalities: spontaneous pain, mechanical hyperalgesia,
thermal hyperalgesia, deep somatic hyperalgesia.
2. Vascular abnormalities: vasodilation, vasoconstriction, skin temperature
asymmetries, skin color changes.
3. Edema, sweating abnormalities: swelling, hyperhidrosis, hypohidrosis.
4. Motor, trophic changes: motor weakness, tremor, dystonia, coordination
deficits, nail changes, hair changes, skin atrophy, joint stiffness, soft tissue
changes.
5. Interpretation. One or more symptoms of three or more categories each AND one
or more signs of two or more categories each.
Second by Peter Schubbe
Motion carried; 10 Yes, 1 No (David Bryce)
- Maja Jurisic moved to change 81.06(4)(a)(4)(c)(1)(a) to read, “the maximum
treatment frequency is 5 times for the first week, decreasing to 3 times per
week for the next two weeks, and should decrease further thereafter”
Second by Sri Vasudevan
Unanimous consent
- Maja Jurisic moved to change 81.06(3)(c)
Second by Jennifer Pollack
Motion withdraw as end range thrust would be included
- Maja Jurisic moved to change 81.11
Discussed and withdrawn
- Amanda Gilliland moved to add to 81.11(1)(a), “There may be patients
recovering from surgical, diagnostic, or other medical procedures or in
Observation status who occupy inpatient beds for one or more nights but do not
meet clinical criteria for inpatient status and therefore are not considered
inpatients or billed as such.“
Second by EricCarlsen
Unanimous consent
- David Bryce moved to add section 6 to 81.04
Second by Mary Jo Capodice
Discussed and withdrawn
Break
- David Bryce moved to add to 81.03(10)
Withdrawn
- David Bryce moved to change 81.06(6)(d)(2); 81.07(7)(c)(2); and
81.08(6)(d)(2) to use the phrase “intrathecal drug pump” instead of “morphine
pump” and change “somatic pain” to somatic or neuropathic pain.”
Second by Steve Kirkhorn
Tabled for future discussion
- David Bryce moved to have “morphine pump” changed to “intrathecal drug pump”
Second by EricCarlsen
Unanimous consent
- David Bryce moved to amend sections 81.06(6)(b)1.; 81.06(11)(b)6.;
81.07(6)(a)1.a.; 81.07(11)(b)6.; 81.07(12)(b); 81.07(13)(a)2.; 81.07(14)(a)2.;
81.08(6)(b)1.; 81.08(11)(b)6.; 81.08(12)(b); and 81.08(13)(a)2. to change
“morphine pump” to “intrathecal drug pump” and “dorsal column stimulator” to
“spinal cord stimulator.”
Second by EricCarlsen
Unanimous consent
- David Bryce made a motion stating if a person has a motion that involves
expansion, he or she should provide pertinent information by email or mail or
reference websites, prior to next meeting for all committee members to review.
Second by EricCarlsen
Unanimous consent
- David Bryce made a motion to amend section 81.10(3)(b)
Second by Mary Jo Capodice
Tabled for future discussion
Motion to adjourn – Peter Schubbe
Second – Amanda Gilliland
Motion carried
Meeting adjourned at 2:25 PM
NEXT MEETING
October 13, 2006
10:00 am – 3:00 pm
Crowne Plaza
4402 E. Washington Avenue
Madison, WI